tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post6036946673871379076..comments2023-10-25T07:29:40.789-02:30Comments on UNCLE GNARLEY: FEDERAL COMPLICITY: THE UNTOLD STORY OF MUSKRAT FALLS (Part I) Des Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02566013585647491614noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-38518937101670578262018-04-10T09:12:42.166-02:302018-04-10T09:12:42.166-02:30Will the Muskrat Inquiry be covered and reported o...Will the Muskrat Inquiry be covered and reported on<br />by the media ongoingly as was the Cameron Inquiry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-11025164854671501422018-04-10T07:32:03.521-02:302018-04-10T07:32:03.521-02:30Lots of comments.....after the fact! Whew!Lots of comments.....after the fact! Whew!Marmaladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01651890655542192076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-47026128447635584322018-04-09T05:23:35.094-02:302018-04-09T05:23:35.094-02:30Muskrat Falls was an experiment in social engineer...Muskrat Falls was an experiment in social engineering whereby politicians, the civil service and the local business community tried to shape the general populace into trades people and other construction workers that lived, spent their money and voted from the NE Avalon. It was probably the worse experiment in the history of this province and we are now paying the steepest price. We are bankrupt and will have to pay a "levee" for the next several generations unless we want complete control of NL society handed over to the bankers, stock brokers, bond holders and corporate elites from the right leaning USA such is now happening in Puerto Rico.<br /><br />As for "doing it our way" that was a disaster in the making with the offshore and continues through MF's since the federal government's involvement in NL's disastrous Mega Project Madness actually started with John Crosbie when he bailed out the failed Hibernia GBS in the 1990's. We seem to forget that the NL politician and general population has a tendency to blame Ottawa for everything that was our own doing from the one-sided deal with Churchill Falls to the collapse of the fishery that happened at our hands (as much as everyone else's). As John Crosbie once said “I didn’t take the dam fish out of the water” and this little bit of fact holds true today as it did then. Trades people, engineers, HR managers, the business community and many more dreamers all wanted in on the Mega Project cash cow but none were willing to even consider how it was going to be paid for or how the jobs were to be continued after it was completed and this is the part where we have failed our children. It is all right if they have an Alberta or an Ontario to move to be as with NL, there is no guarantee in those areas either. As many have said before, we are a third world area lining a first class life style.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-20044943311614396572018-04-08T22:08:51.055-02:302018-04-08T22:08:51.055-02:30Etienne, you are right that Sparkes should have kn...Etienne, you are right that Sparkes should have known better. I found it a bit surprising that he was even critial of the British for treating citizen soldiers "like dogs" as too many here , especially the townie Elites cling to the British coat tails. MUN who can't afford to do maintenance on their buildings, now behind some 400 million for repairs, I believe , still has a campus in England, set up in the days of Lord Taylor , I believe, to give an international flavour to the University in Joey's day. <br /> Doubt if Leblanc will shed light on the class division here, but certainly needed, but your question of who obtained the most economic benefits is important .....follow the money , as they say in the USA. Interesting list of law firms getting to represent those with standing, all applied for and getting paid from the taxpayer, Danny Williams Williams brother, Tommy, one of them.<br />Winston Adams Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-15352613333293575882018-04-08T22:06:10.732-02:302018-04-08T22:06:10.732-02:30Wayne @ 16:04
I am completely in agreement with y...Wayne @ 16:04<br /><br />I am completely in agreement with your remarks that the PC govt used lies and propaganda to lead us down the garden path. The MF project will bring even more hardship on us as we have to pay for this liability one way or another. Also I find it laughable that we would blame others for our own mistakes ie Fed's and Peter McKay. Perhaps they are opportunists and saw MF as a way to get back at DW and get free power for NS respectively, but can you blame them for persuing their own agenda's? Wouldn't NL do what is best for NL? Lets simply grow up and take responsibility for our own actions and vent our anger where it belongs ( on DW and gang). We as NL'ers were too passive and did not push back hard enough against the corrupt politicians. And now to spend 33M to find answers that are already on this site ( if found at all )? <br />Why is it that our "honourable" leaders are usually doctors, lawyers academics, business folks etc., but yet they seem to do what they want, not necessarily what is best for the majority? Give me an honest. humble and sincere average Joe/Jane over any of the above .Fred Mchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580362071154211857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-89962359011868259172018-04-08T19:07:43.359-02:302018-04-08T19:07:43.359-02:30Winston Adams: Okay, I have read the Paul Sparkes ...Winston Adams: Okay, I have read the Paul Sparkes article, and am now aware that he, not you, is the one who wrote about "the French breathing down our necks": thank you for the clarification.<br /><br />I stand by my criticism, however, and indeed the fact that a journalist can make such a blatant mistake (it would have taken him about two minutes of research -on Wikipedia!- to realize that in the 1790's the Franco-English rivalry in North America was over) is perhaps indicative of a certain mentality in Newfoundland.<br /><br />And YES, my "Vision of the future" for Newfoundland in 2118 was meant to be understood as a nightmare, not a desirable outcome! My point is that as long as the economic elite of your province can keep using Quebec as a scapegoat, the elite in question will have no reason whatsoever to stop doing what they seem to have been doing quite successfully so far, i.e. growing rich at the expense of most Newfoundlanders, all the while laughing all the way to the bank.<br /><br />It is to be hoped that the Leblanc Inquiry will shed some light on the issue of MF and class divisions, with special attention given to the matter of those groups and individuals who obtained the most economic benefits: as the Ancient Romans used to say, in finding a criminal, CUI BONO? "To whom does it (i.e. the crime) profit?"<br /> Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-43477995458625877882018-04-08T18:23:15.720-02:302018-04-08T18:23:15.720-02:30You seem to misinterpret my reference to the 1795 ...You seem to misinterpret my reference to the 1795 time frame , and my comment is taken from the Telegram piece by Paul Sparkes: Our starving military........where you can read the full piece. <br /> I am fully aware that the French nor Quebec was in any position to re conquer parts of Nfld.<br /> I concur with Sparkes that Nflders suffered under the might of the British Empire as did many of the parts of the British Empire.<br /> I am not one to blame Quebec for any of our misfortune, and that too few know of the injustice of the British, which Sparkes point out, the Regiment here was "Treated like dogs" by the British , and controlled from London.<br /> Likewise in WW1, there is Nfld soldiers who are quoted as saying mules or horses were better treated than men. <br /> And so I despise any who believed that war is glorious, which was common up to WW1 and perhaps by some in ww2 <br /> Some seem to want to believe that. <br /> You paint a sad picture of the future of Nflders blaming Quebec for thier misfortune. I trust your vision of the future is but a nightmare that will not be reality. But that Townie Elites may still try to steer our population in that direction. <br /> I hope not, and that as a province we avoid such a belief that Quebec is our enemy. <br />Winston <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-23328843310810421562018-04-08T17:53:11.921-02:302018-04-08T17:53:11.921-02:30Winston Adams: Err, in 1795-1797 there was no poss...Winston Adams: Err, in 1795-1797 there was no possibility whatsoever of the French taking over Newfoundland: by the treaty of Paris of 1763 France had already given up all its North American possessions except Saint-Pierre + Miquelon, and earlier (Treaty of Utrecht, 1713) it had recognized that the Island of Newfoundland as a whole was an English possession (France merely salvaged some fishing rights). And in the 1790's France was in the midst of the aftermath of the French Revolution: there was no credible possibility of its reconquering (in whole or in part) its North American Empire. Nor was Quebec at the time in any position to threaten Newfoundland, or indeed anybody. <br /><br />So I'm afraid that you'll need to find another boogeyman to explain why, in 1795-1797, the food given to Newfoundland troops was of such ghastly quality. Incidentally, do you have evidence that things were any better for military regiments from/in other parts of England's nascent Empire?<br /><br />I might add that between 1713 and 1763 the Acadians were collectively deported by the same British Crown Newfoundlanders were so loyal to, so that your entire "We always were poor victims" shtick quite lacks credibility to my mind. I could mention the fate of the Beothuk or your province being given Labrador, but I trust my point is clear.<br /><br />I agree with Heracles31: Knowing one's history is important, but one should not live in it. Not living in it is even more important if said history is (as I hope to have shown above) wholly inaccurate. And if your vision of history is in any way typical of Newfoundlanders, then let me leave you with this little vision of the future...imagine this below as the opening scroll of a STAR WARS-type movie, complete with the appropriate music:<br /><br />"The year is 2118. The Free Dominion of Newfoundland is in turmoil: two different visions of the economic future of the city-state are clashing. With China no longer purchasing real estate (as all of the Island minus Saint-John's has been converted into a nuclear waste dumping ground) and revenues from Labrador declining (Labrador was leased out to a consortium of multinational corporations, with the revenue used to mitigate the effects of radiation poisoning upon Newfoundland's inhabitants), the Free Dominion is torn.<br /><br />One faction favors continued export of forced labor to various Asian countries, performing dangerous and dirty work far more cheaply than robots. The other faction favors a new approach: a universal euthanasia program (decided by lottery for all Newfoundlanders not part of the Townie Elite) in order to harvest human organs to be sold to members of the GTE (Global Trillionaire Elite). <br /><br />While the Townie Elite weighs both options, riots have broken out: a third faction has arisen in Newfoundland, claiming that Newfoundland's economic problems and radiation-related health crisis are all Quebec's fault..." Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-39126521585602492032018-04-08T17:19:31.778-02:302018-04-08T17:19:31.778-02:30Hi Winston,
Well, I hope you will be able to make...Hi Winston,<br /><br />Well, I hope you will be able to make peace with the past and to forgive because the one suffering the most by not doing is is yourself... That past is over and is bringing only negative energy. Better to leave that in the past. Free yourself from that negative energy. To forgive does not mean to forget. To forgive does not mean to thank. To forgive does not mean to deny or anything else.<br /><br />Up to you to forgive or not, but again, you are the one suffering the most if you don't...Heracles31https://www.blogger.com/profile/04598467925778515764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-16692625445600700422018-04-08T16:20:49.656-02:302018-04-08T16:20:49.656-02:30For me Heracles, I find it harder to make peace wi...For me Heracles, I find it harder to make peace with the British mistreatment of Nfld than ancient history of empire competition between the French and Britain. Was it Voltaire in the 1790s perhaps who said France should abandon it empire in America, being surrounded by so many English, and not worth it for "a few acres of ice and snow". I think he did not approve of warfare. Yet our ancestors here and yours struggled to survive, and today we are Canada, one of the world's luckiest nations.And but for France , would the American Revolution been successful , and the statue of Liberty donated by France to the USA. But French warships in aid of Washington helped turn the tide. The Americans colonies wanted out from the unjust rule of the British. <br />Winston<br />WinstonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-79235251857970443682018-04-08T13:21:45.130-02:302018-04-08T13:21:45.130-02:30Yes, this is a legitimate assessment... NLers supp...Yes, this is a legitimate assessment... NLers supported Williams and his PC party with 70+ percent approval ratings at the time the MRF fiasco was incubating... obviously the vast majority of the populace didn't bother to inform themselves of the pros and cons of an impending disaster... it was just full steam ahead and "let's stick it to Quebec" and to hell with the sensibly prudent misgivings of a few treasonous naysayers.<br /><br />And now there's attempts to blame the federal government after the fact? <br /><br />Come off it!<br /><br />The Harper government were placed in an impossible position... if Harper had attempted to save the NLers from themselves by NOT providing the financial rope with which they gladly hung themselves with, then the NLers would've been bitching and complaining about "unequal treatment" over that.<br /><br />As many commentators here have concluded... this recurrent pattern over the history of NL calls into question the capability of NLers... indeed, their desire... to competently govern themselves.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-10496613287153992502018-04-07T22:51:58.223-02:302018-04-07T22:51:58.223-02:30Hi Winston,
The only thing that is as important a...Hi Winston,<br /><br />The only thing that is as important as knowing your history is not to live in it.<br /><br />Canada is a symbolic monarchy. That is why when the country or government must be represented as a person, it is identified as the King / Queen.<br /><br />It looks like a lot of Newfoundlanders are living in their past. That may be a very good reason why the past keep repeating itself over and over again.<br /><br />We also have mistakes and problems in our history, but we do not limit ourself to that, nor de we define ourself from that. Ex: Montreal's Olympic Stadium. That is a white elephant! But we stopped searching a culprit or a scapegoat for it long time ago.<br /><br />I would suggest you to be careful when going in the past... First sign is when you go too far in the past. So much changed, the further you go, the less meaningful it is. Either it does not apply anymore, or if it stil does, humanity proved that it will never get it.<br /><br />Second sign is what do you get from the past ? A lesson learned or an example to follow ? Perfect! But if you are looking for any kind of negative energy (envy, angryness, need for revenge, ...), better to leave that past in the past.<br /><br />Quebec had his hard time with the english part of Canada. Even in Montreal : French east side of Montreal keeps, even today, the marks left by the rich English west side. Again, we stopped complaining about that and that let us progress beyond that.<br /><br />Hope this may help you make peace with as much as possible, from yourself, to Quebec, Canada and more,Heracles31https://www.blogger.com/profile/04598467925778515764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-3291444709014334712018-04-07T20:30:00.960-02:302018-04-07T20:30:00.960-02:30Listening to the Government lawyer, in a almost hu...Listening to the Government lawyer, in a almost hushed tone, say he wanted standing at the Inquiry representing the Queen , that is the crown,.... I remind our readers and the commentators on UG from Quebec, of this bit of history of Nfld.<br /><br />A sickening state of affairs was reported to the Governor of Nfld in the fall of 1797 by Skinner, the Colonel of the Nfld regiment.<br /> "the supply of pork (to the regiment ) was so putrid that one person peeled away the skin of two pieces, and thrust his fingers into the meat...nearly all the pieces were quite yellow."<br />That particular fall the regiment was being called back to winter quarters in St John's and to start off loading the coal ships for the coming winter. St John's was small, a fish and ships town , But we had the French breathing down our necks so we needed men in uniform , waiting for the call up at Fort Townsend. Their presence might have afforded us a measure of comfort but we do not seem to have treated them like the godsend they were. In fact, we treated them like dogs..<br /> Pork was not the only bad thing in the pantry. , as 1440 pounds of of pork on hand , only 276 pounds were fit to for consumption. The rest had to be thrwon into the harbour. The man in charge said the pork had been badly stored on Signal Hill for over a year. <br />If an army marches on its stomach, then we at this point could have been overrun by the French in a confrontation that would have assuredly have changed Nfld's culture forever. The soldiers suffered through the winter on short rations. Meanwhile the Governor sailed for London, as accommodations at Fort Townsend did not appeal to him on a 12 month basis. Rotten pork was only one example of foisting off the less than wonderful on our military. 70 years earlier , a British officer couldn't motivate our little contingent to visit Placentia to spy on the french because they had no issuance of beer. <br />In 1795, provisions were scarce, although we were building a new country based on a profitable fishery, we had nothing like an over supply of victuals....Skinner was writing to London for a sufficient quantity of bedding. <br /> Also, our soldiers "had to assume the cost of their own military dress, such as it was. And that the men were to receive rations "only when they were doing duty. And a shortage of coin meant that items were usually sold for the next highest coin.<br /> So, it was the lowliest people who were awaiting the long ,drawn out evolution of conscience.<br /> So writes historian Paul Sparkes , from which I quote this history. And 2018, is the final year of Nfld's Regiment in WW1, where so much more was sacrificed for Empire.<br /> Meanwhile yesterday as the Inquiry started 200 fishermen were protesting at the Confederation Bldg, as to the state of rural Nfld and the mismanagement of the fishery.<br />Winston Adams Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-86238997821738168552018-04-07T19:10:28.829-02:302018-04-07T19:10:28.829-02:30Robert , you are usually pretty good on thee links...Robert , you are usually pretty good on thee links, but this series on Hack the Heat is full of misrepresentation and factual errors. Can any reader spot any?<br />PFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-38278698015153364942018-04-07T18:40:05.619-02:302018-04-07T18:40:05.619-02:30Now why would a Public Utility think that it can r...Now why would a Public Utility think that it can redact its financials?<br /><br />http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-financial-details-1.4609442Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-65052704070081728262018-04-07T16:04:05.888-02:302018-04-07T16:04:05.888-02:30Anon at 11:05: I was referring to the "straw&...Anon at 11:05: I was referring to the "straw" polls frequently held on the Radio stations. These were stacked in Government's favour as Govt employees were ordered to repeatedly call in asserting their favour towards Government's actions (MF being one of them). This was proven as FACT as Paul Lane (PC member Mt. Pearl South at the time) was actually caught and had to sheepishly publically admit it. These "straw polls" were broadcast over the airways frequently showing that Govt policy/actions/projects/ etc/etc were favoured by the majority of NLers. KD was indeed elected with a majority but soon fell out of favour with the electorate largely because of "Dark NL" which was proven to be caused by NL Hydro's lack of maintenance on the Holyrood substation "designed" by Nalcor/Hydro in trying to prove we were short on power at high demand times thus justifying MF. Either way you slice it MF was shoved down our throats by the PC Government by giving us half truths and outright lies and even went so far as to dismiss the PUB ( whose mandate is to protect the public interest) as an oversight body. They were going to barrel ahead with MF, come hell or high water regardless of the cost and environmental concerns with methyl mercury and the suspected instability of the North Spur. Je--us Ch---t even Donald Trump wouldn't get away with that because of checks and balances in place. The PC Government with the stroke of a pen stripped away all our rights and protection just to satisify the monumental ego of a little man. <br />Seeing Ed Martin on TV the other day STILL saying that MF is good for NLers makes my stomach churn. How in the name of God can he/they still try and claim that MF is a good project when it costs close to 50 cents/KWH to deliver to Soldiers Pond and we sell it for 2 cents while we poor suckers have to pay top dollar (17-23 cents/kwh blended)to pay for it. DW,KD and TM should hang their heads in shame allowing the likes of Ed Martin who was proven to be grossly incompetant in his responsibility with Nalcor to manage this boondoggle on a cost plus basis. It should never have been allowed and you can defend it all you like but facts are facts!--we are pretty well insolvent as a province. We have lower income people and seniors who are struggling to pay their power bills now. When MF comes on line Government is going to have to subsidize them and to do this it will raise our taxes and/or lower our infrastructure spending. Where do you see the benefit of MF?--I can't!<br />Again I said "straw polls". The results of these polls are the ones that are repeatedly broadcast over the airways and anyone with a radio on could hear it over and over again, thus giving a FALSE impression that the majority of NLers were in favour of whatever Government said or did.Waynenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-36275892826523143052018-04-07T13:32:25.637-02:302018-04-07T13:32:25.637-02:30These two should get together;
https://climateact...These two should get together;<br /><br />https://climateactionnetwork.ca/2015/11/18/three-big-moves-toward-a-100-renewable-energy-system-for-canada/<br /><br />http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/hack-the-heat-electric-cars-1.4607954Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-82476249403144794412018-04-07T12:48:04.727-02:302018-04-07T12:48:04.727-02:30Our commentators from Quebec , if watching , must ...Our commentators from Quebec , if watching , must be smiling, as to where this is going. Hardly like the Inquiry against corruption In Quebec, that exposed corruption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-15265701018319363422018-04-07T12:44:33.916-02:302018-04-07T12:44:33.916-02:30Peng2
Agree with a lot of what you say here. And ...Peng2<br /> Agree with a lot of what you say here. And nuances are important, I would have liked to be there to see and here all.<br /> DW asked for funding? Bill Rowe wrote that he was as tight as a duck's ass, if I recall. The 200 million dollar man, wanting the public to fund his defense of forging ahead (rolling the dice ) for this so called legacy project, that may bankrupt the province. And Danny's brother Tom , is it, representing others...........so all in the family.<br /> Lawyers will do great out of this, paid to sit and listen, paid by the hour. Interesting who represents who.<br />PF Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-12647006392445452862018-04-07T12:30:25.132-02:302018-04-07T12:30:25.132-02:30PF:
I would suggest getting a copy of the hearing...PF:<br /><br />I would suggest getting a copy of the hearing and watching several times-lots of nuances to absorb, a 1x listen doesn't do it justice.<br /><br />I am still digesting the proceedings and what yesterday means, so my thoughts are still incomplete yet, but would offer:<br />2) I don't think public opinion has a place in the Inquiry or other judicial hearings for that matter-that's why I am surprised given the questions posed to Browne, I was a bit surprised that MFCC wasnt scrutinized a bit closer.<br />3) very few former politicians, civil servants, Nalcor board members etc appeared. Other than Astaldi, I never heard 1 other contractor(granted I missed 20% or so)<br />5) DW et al asked for funding, Martin did not, and KD cried poor-I would have assumed and hoped to have seen more individuals/groups cooperatively apply and 'public persons/groups' being refused funding<br />6) I am not sure democratic deficit has a place here-over 70% of populace wanted MF so I guess you could mask that in democracy, I will clarify in a separate post what I mean by that<br /><br />Granted, we haven't seen the text documents asking for standing, so a quick vid presentation isn't much to go on-just my gut feeling from experience. I would suggest that the $33M allotment will be mostly eaten up if this proceeds as I now expect it to.<br /><br />PENG2 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-22139106017848254522018-04-07T11:57:32.840-02:302018-04-07T11:57:32.840-02:30Peng2
I tuned in late , as indicated, so only saw...Peng2<br /> I tuned in late , as indicated, so only saw about 1/4 of the proceeding, and an attempt to view later , the sound cut off part way through. Also I have 2 volume adjustments ,and still the sound was low for my hearing, which is somewhat impaired, but for other audio on the computer I have no trouble. So I missed near 50 percent of the audio what I did see.<br /> On #2 ,I guess Leblanc had to acknowledge that UG pressed for the Inquiry, and with 5 years of UG , and 2 million hits, and various experts weighing in, could he ignore them ?<br />#3 who did or didn't ask for standing.........why different from what your expected?<br /># 5........what did you see wrong ? You just say it was interesting. <br />#6 Democratic deficit........Sort of agree with Leblanc, but i suppose in that PUB was shut out, Secrecy Act, etc.....there are areas where he could go.<br />To Tor...yes 218, pitiful , but maybe this will grow. If not we deserve double the power rates, and worse.<br />PF<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-12116166402050934192018-04-07T11:47:04.810-02:302018-04-07T11:47:04.810-02:30Keep the Shadow Inquiry going folks. By the looks ...Keep the Shadow Inquiry going folks. By the looks of the groups given standing, it would appear that those who promoted and sanctioned the "Beast", are set to defend personal integrity, honour, culpability. Diversion from objectivity. I do hope the contracts files are under safe protection and care by the Grant Thornton team.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-80333650368171420272018-04-07T11:11:42.561-02:302018-04-07T11:11:42.561-02:30218 souls on the coalition ship!
I must be one, bu...218 souls on the coalition ship!<br />I must be one, but I have no information about the formation or the process involved.<br />Surely the inquiry standing isn't about who gets money (which lawyers get money)is it?<br /><br />I would gladly stand for nothing to get my word in, but, like all this stuff, the concentration on who what when where and why isn't going to tell us how we are going to get past the MF mess.<br /><br />Are there no petitions? <br />peaceful civil disobediences? <br />protests? <br />demonstrations?<br /><br />218! <br /><br />It's not hard to get 218 people to a wedding or a funeral, surely more Newfoundlanders (and Labradoriens) are more interested in their future than this paltry number.<br />If not, another example of the dragon winning, again.<br /><br />I am rotted. <br />I am naive. <br />I am idealistic.<br />I am a socialist.<br />I am a man of direct and often radical action.<br /><br />Where are the pitch forks and rakes?<br /><br />Bourgeois rhetoric and namby pamby mealy mouthing has its place, of course, but we are now way beyond that, aren't we?<br /><br />Huh?<br /><br /><br />Tor Fosnaeshttp://mobilewords.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-46815296548456323512018-04-07T11:05:59.183-02:302018-04-07T11:05:59.183-02:30So the massive election support for KD was real, b...So the massive election support for KD was real, but the opinion polls were manipulated. So the legitimate polling companies produced fraudulent results, because? Is this a new thread for the conspiracy blanket; NL'ers actually were massively opposed to MF, but the polls were manipulated to show the reverse. Who will be blamed for paying off the poll companies? Emera? FG? HQ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-31731017572426139292018-04-07T09:54:35.437-02:302018-04-07T09:54:35.437-02:30PF:
Just how much of the proceeding did you watch...PF:<br /><br />Just how much of the proceeding did you watch, like I said I watched all except when tech issues caused me to loose about 20%-by your comment: maybe you heard only words and not their meaning or didn't pay attention to the entire proceedings?<br /><br />I will only address my #2, you missed my other points completely:<br />2) I was simply noting that LeBLanc said he didn't see that the Inquiry could accept that Browne had regulatory authority to represent consumers-based on this assessment, I am surprise LeBLanc allowed MFCC to use the rights of the populace as a partial argument for standing. You didn't read closely enough-I never passed judgement on MFCC vs Browne either way.<br /><br />The proceedings were interesting and maybe a translation relating the there spoken words vs regulatory meaning is in order. <br /><br />PENG2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com