tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post3637002720277001292..comments2023-10-25T07:29:40.789-02:30Comments on UNCLE GNARLEY: HYDRO SPINNING A TALE FROM BOTH SIDES OF ITS MOUTHDes Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02566013585647491614noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-61047565778894781112018-05-25T14:51:22.495-02:302018-05-25T14:51:22.495-02:30Thanks for your reply. I realize I'm late post...Thanks for your reply. I realize I'm late posting my own reply but my schedule did not permit me to check back sooner. Hopefully you see this.<br /><br />The point I was trying to make is that the minimum operating levels of the Holyrood units are not new, so even before interconnection there were times during the year when Holyrood would be at its minimum operating levels and island hydro would have to back off as load dropped in the normal day to day and seasonal cycles. The goal though was to minimize Holyrood use and maximize hydro use. In the end I don't see this as anything new or groundbreaking.<br /><br />With the interconnections Hydro has a new source of cheap supply, albeit relatively small though the cost of delivering the small amount of energy from Labrador will be huge thanks to the LIL cost. Though that is not getting past on to we ratepayers.<br /><br />What a messed up situation.<br /><br />K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-80693601005667807052018-05-19T11:55:39.884-02:302018-05-19T11:55:39.884-02:30Just think Winston, offshore oil was not even know...Just think Winston, offshore oil was not even known to exist at the time, and Joey was already shouting "burn your boats". NFLD would be "industrialized" by Valdmanis, that whiz kid from Lithuania? and good old Johnny Doyle, Big Al Vardy, Shaheen, and scoundrels all. QC had Duplessis, we had Smallwood. I agree with Heracles, let's put this era behind and attend to business of the day. <br /><br />Stan, we need a project update. Ministers of the crown, what deal has been struck? What is the current path forward?<br /><br />People, what leadership are you prepared to vote for? I feel more like the dried cod in that Toronto fish store some years ago; buddy you're a long way from home!Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-77027612243344147342018-05-19T11:47:28.427-02:302018-05-19T11:47:28.427-02:30Ray Guy was astute as to the mentality of NLers an...Ray Guy was astute as to the mentality of NLers and the dodgy con artist they elected as their politicians.. from a MUN convocation oration honoring Ray Guy..<br /><br />Covering politics in what he called “the land of the rising scum,” in the House of Assembly, Guy parodied Smallwood’s great announcements. At one point Joey, in full rhetorical flight described a Labrador lake as “six times larger ... than the Sea of Galilee” and Guy reported the event in biblical prose, “And it came to pass in those days that ... Joseph gathered together all the scribes and high priests and them that were exceedingly brown of nose and did pass ... into Lab-rador meaning the Land Joe Gave to Doyle. [And he spake unto them saying] Behold, O ye congregation of hangers on; we passeth over an exceedingly stunned people ... they seemeth not to know [a] bee from an bull’s hoof... Verily, I say unto you they are like unto a manner of people that falleth to the ground and misseth. But fear not for in stunnedness they were conceived and in darkness and superstition they do travail from generation unto generation.”<br /><br />Very astute, very astute indeed...<br /><br />http://www.mun.ca/gazette/2000-2001/june14/convocation7.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-41997455494248187442018-05-19T11:22:19.799-02:302018-05-19T11:22:19.799-02:30And Heracles, Joey told the House "there was ...And Heracles, Joey told the House "there was no doubt whatsoever that all the water power in Labrador can be produced and sold at a profit for a lower price than any other power in North America" .<br /> And so the Premiers announcement " was greeted with loud desk -thumping applause from all government members present." And Mr Winters was invited to address the House, the first "outsider" since the national president of the Imperial Order Daughters of the Empire visited last spring.<br /> Now of course winters praised Joey, and said "he knew the project was the dream of the people of Nfld for a great many years and that , in that regard, BRINCO thought of itself as trustees of the people of Nfld.<br /> Now Heracles, note that there is no mention of the wishes and benefits to the people of Labrador, nor of the aboriginals, in particular , the Innu who occupied and used those lands, that was soon to be sheltered in poor quality shacks on the coast, to make way for the flooding.<br /> Now Winters said "Sometimes we may have been overly reliant on one particular means or avenue of doing it.. but it has been demonstrated that there is more than one way" And " the Preece, Cardew, and Rider report would be a help to BRINCO. It's advance technology will 'put BRINCO in a position to handle other such developments all over the world" And Winters said that they "would seek to make Churchill power available , first to Nfld, then to neighbouring provinces and ...to the United States. An imaginative scheme it was , he continued..... it would involve at least two provinces working together.(but Winters did not name the two provinces ) He said "We must be willing to submerge our interests at a time when perhaps this is not easy. ....as the Churchill is one of the greatest projects now being undertaken in the world and all Canadians should be proud of it.<br /> To this both government and opposition members applauded.<br />And so the journalists concluded his piece with this comment: The House was left to ponder on the fact that whatever interests are submerged it seems less likely that Churchill Falls power lines will be.<br /> Now what this journalists was saying was, that not only were the underwater cables not to go to Nova Scotia, as previously promised by the Premier, but that the cables acros the Straits of Belle Isle to Nfld would not happen as well. That the House and the people were being told lies. That power to Nfld first was a fable, like the frog and the ox story.<br /> And so , in 2018 we see some dirty coal power imported from NS, our cheap clean island power about to be exported to NS for nothing, and a little Churchill Falls power promised to arrive on the isalnd this year, power which costs 2/10 of 1 cent to produce and Nfld Hydro wants to charge us Holyrood oil power rates of 13 cents or more.<br /> Now the journalists was of course , Ray Guy, an ox you might say. Joey, a frog, if you learn more about him. Then along comes a Nfld frog bigger than Joey, who reinvents the benefits, profits and gravy, of the Anglo Saxon route.<br /> So Heracles, Yes I have one foot in the past, I try to know our history, but do not live in the past.<br />Winston<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-22129760991520380792018-05-19T00:02:20.914-02:302018-05-19T00:02:20.914-02:30Now our journalist reporter in 1965 says " Si...Now our journalist reporter in 1965 says " Sisterly relations between Quebec and the Nfld governments have been rupture for some time. This was the first indication by the Premier since the sisterly slug-fest commenced that Quebec would get even enough Labrador electricity to pop a slice of toast. ( As Heracles,may know that Joey thought to bluff Quebec with Anglo Saxon Route Madness, via marvelous technology of underwater cables). Our journalist reminds his readers that " Before yesterday's statement the Premier had vigorously maintained that any transmission route other than his "Anglo -Saxon" line was unthinkable. Now BRINCO will commence immediate investigations of the most economic way to transmit Labrador power to these five provinces. Provided Nfld gets all the power it needs "we are happy to have the power that is surplus to us delivered to our sister provinces by whatever means and route may prove to be the most efficient and economical and consequently most profitable to Nfld".<br /> When sisterly thirsts have been thoroughly quenched with Labrador power (says our reporter) , he then quotes Joey further "we would be most happy to see the surplus power go toward satisfying the needs of our friends in the United States" So, "BRINCO will start a survey on the amount and cost of development of this power. And Mr Winters tells me of the very great desire that exists of Ontario and , New York and New England for all of the power that Nfld can produce. Indeed, one great organization wants to buy the entire six million horsepower output of the Upper Churchill". <br /> Now Heracles should understand that few in Nfld knew what a watt, or kilowatt or megawatt was, so Joey talked in horse power, and of harnessing the horsepower, as in those days, horses were still common in rural Nfld, and Joey had the skill to fool most of the Nflders for decades, with his schemes of great new industries, lots of debt and jobs, especially at election times. And he was a friend of Fidel, I recall, and industrialists John Shaneen and John C Doyle , who became a fugitive in Panama, being chased by the FBI. Crooks hung at his coattails, and cost plus his methods. <br />Part 3 to follow <br />WinstonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-79713601441962831442018-05-18T23:25:20.112-02:302018-05-18T23:25:20.112-02:30Now UG raeders will recall that Heracles compares...Now UG raeders will recall that Heracles compares Nfld to the Frog and the OX story, which goes like this:<br /> One afternoon a grand and wonderful ox was on his daily stroll, when he was noticed by a small haggardly frog. The frog was too impressed with the great ox , impressed to the point of envy. "Look at this magnificent ox! ' he called to all this friends, He's such a grand size for an animal, But he's no greater than I am if I tried" The frog started puffing and swelling from his normal size. . "Am I A large as the wonderful ox?" he asked his friends. "No, no not near as grand as the ox." they replied.<br /> So, the frog puffed himself up more and more , trying to reach the state of the ox. "Now? now?" asked the frog?<br /> "No, no. But please, don't try anymore , " pleaded his friends.<br /> But the frog continued to puff and swell, larger and larger until he finally burst.<br /> Now, I think there is value in Heracles story and comparison, that we have had too many Nfld frogs and too few great ox. And Heracles says we are about to burst from our financial debt, from the Muskrat fiasco.<br /> Joey part 2 to follow.<br />WinstonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-61130879562550107752018-05-18T22:16:08.912-02:302018-05-18T22:16:08.912-02:30To Heracles: some History, as you say you know lit...To Heracles: some History, as you say you know little of Joey Smallwood.<br /> In 1965 I was finishing high school and embarking on obtaining an engineering degree, via MUN and NS Tech. We had a journalist who watched the proceedings at our government House of Assembly . This from his piece called "Quebec may get Churchill Falls Power". The piece was published March 11 , 1965 in the Telegram, It reads:<br /> The House of ssembly learned yesterday, in a round about manner, that Churchill falls power is likely to go through Quebec. Brinco will start searching immediately for " the most economic way" to transmit Labrador hydro to to the five eastern provinces, including Quebec.<br /> Nfld's needs will be supplied through transmission lines under the Strait of Belle Isle, the House was told. But significantly there was no mention of the submarine cable under the Cabot Strait. ( You may know Heracles, that now called the Maritime Link, this was called the Anglo Saxon route, as being different from the french Quebec route)<br /> Joey had brought Mr Robert Winters (the Chairman of Brinco) to speak, but Joey first told the House that the project would start this spring, and that "Nfld, as the prime owner of the power, must now and always, have first claim on it and that Nfld's interest is and must always be paramount...and that his government is delighted with the sincerely and strength of Mr Winter's feelings in this regard"<br /> Now it was planned to get ahead with harnessing the Churchil Fall (six million hp )first and tackle Muskrat (3 million hp ) later on. <br /><br /> Now our wily reported picked up on, and quoted this Heracles: "it was agreed between us today that the Preece, Cardew, and Rider report on transmission of power to the island of Nfld via an overhead transmission line and a short submarine line across the Strit of Belle Isle would be proceeded with as part of the whole project. Thus, Churchill power would flow into the island power grid at Deer Lake by 1969 or 1970, and as the Premier puts it ; Labrador power will be made available to "sister provinces of Canada"<br /> Part 2 to follow.<br />Winston<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-68234146426575024882018-05-18T19:53:18.768-02:302018-05-18T19:53:18.768-02:30K - there is a new wrinkle about to happen. You&#...K - there is a new wrinkle about to happen. You're totally on the right track except for one piece. <br /><br />Historically we are used to Holyrood occupying the position of being the expensive energy provider. Normally, if we can reduce energy usage, we stand to gain from considerable fuel savings and the average cost of energy production goes down because we use less high cost oil-fired energy. This is an example of conventional economic theory: the marginal cost provider in the system is the highest cost plant.<br /><br />Once the Labrador infeed begins, as you note, Holyrood adopts new minimum operating points and we add Labrador recall power to top off our total energy needs. But there's the new wrinkle. Let's imagine that in 2018-19 consumers need less power than Hydro is forecasting because people are choosing to go efficient to combat constantly rising rates. Will we use less Holyrood power? No - that can't be reduced further so we will use less 0.2 c/KWh Labrador recall power. The ultra cheap energy source will be our marginal cost input - normal economic assumptions have been flipped upside-down. As consumers become more efficient and energy requirements fall, the average cost of generation will rise. Muskrat rate madness begins very soon. <br /><br />The point of the "odd" comment is to highlight this economic oddity created but seemingly not recognized by Hydro executives as evident in their testimony at the GRA hearings. If the top execs can't figure this out, Hydro is a ship without a rudder. <br /><br />The PUB and the CA really need to question Hydro deeper on the dynamics of the proposed operating scheme, particularly in the face of highly probable falling energy requirements. The PUB should demand resubmission of dispatch forecasts as Hydro's GRA submission is presently all over the place.<br /><br />PlanetNL<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-19016361791483822622018-05-18T17:10:55.881-02:302018-05-18T17:10:55.881-02:30Interesting. Some years ago on a hot August aftern...Interesting. Some years ago on a hot August afternoon, a tree branch fell on a transmission line in Ohio. Blackout through the North East. As usual, Americans blamed this catastrophic outage on the "black box switch" in the telephone line in Southern Ontario, (part of the outside plant in my own jurisdiction back in 68). For strange reasons, HQ was isolated from the grid break. Something about "Y" "Delta" power systems? Now you have explained the shrewdness of HQ Engineers. Living in ON when it became necessary to re-engineer the nuclear plants just East of Toronto, we were warned of brown outs and need to cut back on demand. But what about all that cheap power going to waste in QC? The public were told to shut up. OH were not going to connect with the "inferior grid". So what technical breakthrough will be necessary to pump Muskrat power through QC to Edmonston NB?Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-84317394507761392502018-05-18T16:15:16.972-02:302018-05-18T16:15:16.972-02:30Hi Heracles.
Some Nflders might wonder why I have...Hi Heracles.<br /> Some Nflders might wonder why I have respect and some praise for Quebec, so here is a disclosure<br /> After 15 or 20 years in business locally, and having done some business, on a small scale with companies in Ontario, Que and the USA, I thought I could recommend to others to try a bit of investment, to own a bit of other companies to buy a few shares and try luck and skill.<br /> Of holdings that I recommended, 36 percent are in Quebec Companies.<br /> They are Bombardier, VNP and National Bank. Bombardier shows down 11 percent, VNP down 45 % , but only 2 percent of total,, and National up 71.5 %, and since most is in National , doing ok, and Bombardier climbing a lot this year. So my advise overall was good. So, as National invests in many Quebec companies , one own a bit of Quebec.<br /> NOW: Return of Equity ,<br /> National is 18.22 %<br /> Fortis is -2.46 % (and I recommended a bit of that too in the past )<br /> Emera is 8.35 % ( was not recommended, but is doing ok))<br />They each pay a respectable dividend. <br /> My source says Fortis is not currently profitable, due to a negative return on Equity..........so have they grown too fast since Stan left?<br /> Now there in not many public Nfld companies to invest in, and Fortis shine gone it seems.<br /> Of course, some banks have done better than National, but historical shows up over 400 % in about 25 years, which is not bad. <br /> Perhaps more Nflders should see Quebec as a place for win win, as I have and still do. Perhaps my view goes back to my youthful days as an engineer in training on CFs, and those Quebec guys were ok , in my book, and nothing over the years changed that. <br /> Now of course, we have a big spending problem here with government, so while extending the CF contract some may be one way, there are other ways to skin a cat, or a Muskrat, so all must be weighed.<br />Winston<br />Winston<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-4377420688054058132018-05-18T16:02:01.820-02:302018-05-18T16:02:01.820-02:30Agree with you Winston . Who the hell do those sca...Agree with you Winston . Who the hell do those scallogwags think they are that sit in their ivory towers, acting as if they were king Tuck, with not a click and a clue, between the dam lot of them to give the little bit of power that's required on this island of a half a million people. Imagine if they were providing power for several million people!!! And we have three power and distribution companies falling and tripping over each other as if the were at a New Year's Eve drinking party. They have screwed up royally the future of generations yet to come, and they just don't get it. They have a mentality that the land mass of this province is their kindergarten playground for their hydro power shannigans, and the people be dammed. Does the province and the people exist for your convenience to play around with their lives and future generations. You placed this province, along with your political bosses, in fincincial jeopardy, and you accept no responsibility only to espouse your distain for the innocent people that have placed their trust that you would do what was in their best interest. And you have been a dismal failure, and want to continue in your destructive ways, that is the lagecy of the politicans and power companies of the last decade plus. Prior to that you seemed to be doing your job in a reasonable and responsible way. Did you all stick both hands in a 400 volt circuit and fry your brains!!! If that's the case it's best that you be relieved of the positions you hold. That's what I think, anyone else have similar thoughts?? Average Joe.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-42052585898683543592018-05-18T15:46:07.698-02:302018-05-18T15:46:07.698-02:30This paragraph is odd.
"“The issue is that H...This paragraph is odd.<br /><br />"“The issue is that Holyrood no longer will be the source of the marginal cost of power. Holyrood will actually be the middle layer of a strange economic sandwich. On the bottom is 4600 GWh of low cost island hydro whose consumption will be maximized. In the middle is expensive Holyrood power which is forecasted at around 700 GWh in 2019. This consumption is essential due to reliability spinning reserve requirements. (In other words, Holyrood has to operate anyway just to keep the current system balanced.) The top layer of the sandwich is 919 GWh of ultra-cheap CFLCo power delivered under a fixed (yet unknown) O&M (Operations and Management) cost. This is not a minor nuance.”<br /><br />The goal in managing the generation on the island has always been to minimize the use of Holyrood and the combustion turbines, the interconnections to Nova Scotia and Labrador will not change that. Every year, in the fall, it becomes necessary to start using Holyrood. This point is based on system load and transmission constraints onto the Avalon. Each unit is started when necessary and loading is minimized but must be kept above a minimum operating point (70MW per unit IIRC). The addition of a capacitor bank at Come By Chance as part of the Long Harbour project and the addition of TL267 delayed the startup times of the Holyrood units in the fall, advanced the shut down times in the spring, and permitted more power to be moved from the west to the Avalon. This all reduced use of Holyrood. <br /><br />The addition of the infeeds from NS and Labrador don't change this pattern, they just allow Hydro to further offset Holyrood with import sources but they must still operate at or above minimum design levels and during the winter they are needed to supply power and provide spinning reserve. If you look at the daily reports posted to the PUB website you can see that Hydro imported power over the Maritime Link primarily to maintain reserves instead of loading on island units. <br /><br />PlanetNL is not wrong in that price elasticity will impact how much power is used nor that the PUB and Hydro appear to be caught in a state of flux regarding the rate structures to be used going forward. <br /><br />K Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-3505623585155227812018-05-18T15:13:51.816-02:302018-05-18T15:13:51.816-02:30Hi Robert, this isn't stupidity, it's just...Hi Robert, this isn't stupidity, it's just the way interconnected power systems work. A problem in one part of the grid is absorbed by others. That's one of the benefits of interconnecting. Hydro Quebec wants to sell power to everyone but doesn't want to be connected via AC like everyone else, though there were valid technical reasons for them to stay electrically separated from the rest of the north american grid.<br /><br />PENG3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-40978832584813790892018-05-18T14:50:28.251-02:302018-05-18T14:50:28.251-02:30PENG3, does this not speak to the need for some En...PENG3, does this not speak to the need for some Engineering coordination, backed up with some common sense smart grid management? Who is running this stupidity?Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-50601016779171606722018-05-18T14:40:48.722-02:302018-05-18T14:40:48.722-02:30Winston, if memory serves, the UC to MF transmissi...Winston, if memory serves, the UC to MF transmission line is made up of two 3-phase circuits, each rated for 900MW. The intent is that they be able to transmit full power from MF to the UC in the event of a two pole trip of the LIL. This effectively uses the Hydro Quebec system as a shock absorber, a fact HQ were none to pleased with according to one of their engineers I was speaking with. Two circuits are used in the LTA to ensure redundancy.<br /><br />PENG3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-89809781347118622512018-05-18T13:57:39.425-02:302018-05-18T13:57:39.425-02:30Much of what you propose is achieved by energy eff...Much of what you propose is achieved by energy efficiency corporations in other jurisdictions, that is separate from the power companies, but funded for incentives by a small portion of the power bill, like Efficiency NS.<br /> We the people, through our power bills have already funded a $300,000.00 study to show the energy savings and potential peak grid power reduction in winter.<br /> The study , the ICF study was done in 2015. If memory serves it shows a potential reduction of 31 percent reduction for the residential sector, most for mini-splits as number 1, and insulation, mainly of basements , as number 2 best measures. Commercial reduction would further reduce energy savings.<br /> Savings on peak demand can likely be 400 MW of more, and perhaps a much as 600 MW, most from mini-splits that are of the quality that operate good in our climate. If you want to assume that minisplits do not reduce winter peak demand at all, you can assume that ALL will fail in winter!. This is exactly the power companies , it appears , told ICF to say, that all will fail, though that is a false assumption. But if you call it a Conservative assumption, it allows you (ICF)to say that , and so show NO peak demand saving. What does Average JOE think of that approach by our caring power companies. So instead of knocking off hundreds of MWs, you show knocking off zero. Such is the tactics of the scallywags, and this paid for by our power bill dollars. Deception of the first order. <br /> Winston<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-65302714441604353262018-05-18T09:24:03.226-02:302018-05-18T09:24:03.226-02:30Glad to see you leading the way Tor, on the Electr...Glad to see you leading the way Tor, on the Electroswarm. You have some excellent ideas, and seems you have organizational abilities in how to direct a campaign across social media. As you say, "a small group of concerned citizens, can change the world, a country, or a province". Also think UG and friends have made an excellent start, so others may bring their talents to bear where they are most needed. Maybe UG is taking a blow, a spell, or a coffee break. Well deserved!! Keep on trucking guys and gals. Cheers, average Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-63266073044627450582018-05-18T08:12:19.871-02:302018-05-18T08:12:19.871-02:30One more step copmpleted
electroswarmnl.ca registe...One more step copmpleted<br />electroswarmnl.ca registered<br /><br />if it goes further the domain can be gosted with a collaboration tool overlay (WordPress or similar blog type app) for participation.<br /><br />Next a committee, then some sub-committees; everyone read up on swarms as social action tools<br /><br />Take your future in your hands and remember there is nothing that cannot be accomplished by men (and women, of course)of good will working together towards a common cause.Tor Fosnaeshttp://mobilewords.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-2019985869218666202018-05-18T06:51:10.400-02:302018-05-18T06:51:10.400-02:30Has UG gone undercover?
No new post yesterday!
oh...Has UG gone undercover?<br />No new post yesterday!<br /><br />oh oh.<br /><br />I have cobbled together an objective sheet for ElectroSwarm NL.<br />It needs further development, obviously, that's the very nature of a swarm<br /><br />ElectroSwarm NL<br /><br />Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,<br />committed citizens can change the world.<br />Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.<br />— Margaret Mead<br /><br />Objectives<br />1. Demonstrate how the whole population is being coerced into long term debt without reason; that we are as mad as hell and won’t stand for it any longer<br />2. Study the implications of capital investment now for long term returns on electricity bills (minisplits; insulation upgrades, eg.)<br />a. Develop methods to maximize existing TakeCharge and Federal programs for energy conservation across the whole population – home and business - use their own tools to great public advantage<br />b. Develop bulk purchase of standard and alternate heating and insulation technologies to reduce capital outlays<br />3. Provide and promulgate practical ways to reduce electricity consumption in homes and businesses<br />4. Discover how capital investment in alternate heating methods can be subsidized or supported for those unable to raise the needed funds<br />5. Bust the generation and distribution monopolies; make public utilities public<br /><br />Tor Fosnaeshttp://mobilewords.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-87234771394202172522018-05-18T01:12:15.002-02:302018-05-18T01:12:15.002-02:30And how are things going on Site C you might ask? ...And how are things going on Site C you might ask? Following the Muskrat Boondoggle track.<br /><br />http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/vaughn-palmer-hydro-shocker-isnt-the-first-time-project-wires-got-crossed<br /><br />Reading the fine print we find contract management is lax, if not incompetent. Comments under the article get at the expectance of over-run on mega projects by BC Hydro. Did not Mr. Williams make similar comments about MF? BC minister in charge stated that estimates were mere guesses. "Guesstimating", WAG, (Wide Ass Guesses) we used to call them, to get past project sanctioning. Sound familiar?Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-77750937498626276102018-05-17T17:08:54.247-02:302018-05-17T17:08:54.247-02:30Hi Ex-mil,
I went back to that article and indeed...Hi Ex-mil,<br /><br />I went back to that article and indeed, it is the traidional brainwashing speech that Newfoundland repeated over and over again. How the 25 years extension was a deliberate abuse of poor and vulnerable Newfoundland and blablabla when Newfoundland was not even part of the contract.<br /><br />If you look at the politicians' answer about how they plan to mitigate MF, one of the first thing they say is that involving HQ is not considered as an option. Now, they may just say that all options are considered, but they will do all they can to avoid naming HQ.<br /><br />When will some Newfoundlanders tell their elected leaders to stop seeing HQ as evil and to go ask them for help in exchange for an extension of the power contract and distribution rights over Labrador, to the Rock and NS ? If you don't ask for something like that, the elected leaders will do all they can to avoid that because blaming HQ is still the most popular point of view.<br /><br />Proove them they are wrong : proove them that Nefoundlanders will rather work with HQ than trusting such politicians with a subject way above their capabilties. Stop hoping for your politicians to start to act wisely because that is not how politicians work. They act out of popularity, not rational sense. Show them what is popular : is it crying, complaining and being passive or is it being active, proving to them that the Power Contract has always been a WIn - Win and can still be extended as a Win - Win by allowing Newfoundland to get out of the fiasco in a single piece.<br /><br />Anyway, the fate of Newfoundland will be known soon enough and in no case it can be more than 3 years... Lets hope it will not turn too bad...Heracles31https://www.blogger.com/profile/04598467925778515764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-1609259115849054202018-05-17T13:57:59.453-02:302018-05-17T13:57:59.453-02:30Winston, your work with mini-splits is a combinati...Winston, your work with mini-splits is a combination of all three. I had a minisplit installed last year and not knowing the logistics, the installers installed it facing the northwest directly facing the wind and snow. I now know I must provide some protection from the elements and am seriously considering installing a 2nd one ( I have a split entry house) for the downstairs portion. Attic installation is impractical for me but the benefits (especially when MF comes onstream) makes another MS very posssible. Your postings are important for those considering investing in one. If I had my time back I would have installed a dual zone MS as opposed to the LG single zone I now have.Waynenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-81600754900363121802018-05-17T13:43:20.091-02:302018-05-17T13:43:20.091-02:30Curious, who or what authority is making noise in ...Curious, who or what authority is making noise in this regard? Technology Transfer is in the best interest of the public consumption and good. Your reporting of actual observations on performance of commercial products makes a valuable contribution to the Blog and the public at large.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-26660548412151997722018-05-17T13:33:57.758-02:302018-05-17T13:33:57.758-02:30Winston, your distribution plan to get cheaper hyd...Winston, your distribution plan to get cheaper hydro power surplus through Atlantic Canada is one I have supported for some time. Political interference through provincially controlled power corporations has prevented this most logical and economic Energy Plan. Similarly, distribution of QC surplus power to Ontario has been seen as a logical and economic resolution to mitigation of higher rates, now a political football in the ON election. Keep an eye on Dougie. A lot will come down to Federal intervention, such as the BC TMP subsidy, Site C surplus to AB, etc. and the upcoming Fed Elections. I prefer local corporation on Energy solutions, but maybe, finally, Canada is edging towards a National Energy Plan. Good thoughts and ideas Winston. Keep it going, while we await news on the Muskrat project status, including cost management update, Supreme Court decision, selloff of stranded assets, etc. The lack of project news is cause for concern.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-68005948209577376892018-05-17T13:21:02.893-02:302018-05-17T13:21:02.893-02:30I may be getting myself, and this blog owner, into...I may be getting myself, and this blog owner, into a lot of trouble, having commented here on this blog on my work on mini-split heat pumps.<br /> The problems may arise whether my work is defined as one of evaluation or performance or research, which I have put into the public domain, some at the PUB, but more so on this blog.<br /> Some UG readers may recall the nature of my postings, and I ask of you if you consider my work as: evaluation or performance data; or research data.<br /> If research data and of interest or applicable to other humans, it may require ethics approval whether I continue to do this work or make it public. Personally I considered it research, but also had evaluation and performance components.<br /> I didn`t realize that it might be possible that some ethics act might govern or prevent me from such work, or need their approval to continue or make it public.<br /> If readers could help me define this work it might help, least I break the law.<br />Winston Adams <br /> <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com