tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post7367317122014808036..comments2023-10-25T07:29:40.789-02:30Comments on UNCLE GNARLEY: $900,000 TO STURGE: NALCOR BOARD AN ECHO OF THE LAST ONEDes Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02566013585647491614noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-31147105329952132662019-11-20T20:41:23.803-03:302019-11-20T20:41:23.803-03:30Think you are reading me wrong Winston, or just co...Think you are reading me wrong Winston, or just confirming what you already know. Yes, I believe we have local elites, and no doubt for all the other provinces. Maybe the question is do we have a disproportionate number and do they have a greater effect on our politics and governance. I don't really know. So my questions were if they do have a great or greater effect then at least we should know if they are few in numbers or in the hundreds. So was suggesting a list be compiled, similar to the sunshine list. Otherwise, even if local elites exist and affect our goverence then we should know, and not just figments of our imagination or inundo that has no basis in fact. So not really agreeing or disagreeing until I see the facts, and a list might be a starting point, since we have a sunshine list, why not an elite list and how many control our political and governance, like muskrat or the election of political parties. Don't think Sturge might be one, but just a benificier of that system as it exist. Joe blow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-70967072899019858642019-11-20T16:48:26.251-03:302019-11-20T16:48:26.251-03:30Give us a break Bob, can we see if yee people unde...Give us a break Bob, can we see if yee people understand the simple mechanics of this wrong doing by giving out public funds to undeserving people before we gets into the bad feasance and those other bad bugs that the ambulance chasing lawyers love so much.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02742822193792686436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-61960729985381333352019-11-20T12:50:44.676-03:302019-11-20T12:50:44.676-03:30Yes,so much for CBC or any media in NL doing a com...Yes,so much for CBC or any media in NL doing a comprehensive interview about anything of importance.TMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01213412865108374357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-39505344225558235962019-11-20T12:23:32.663-03:302019-11-20T12:23:32.663-03:30Kudos to Uncle Gnarley!
I just watched your CBC i...Kudos to Uncle Gnarley!<br /><br />I just watched your CBC interview with Anthony Germaine.<br /><br />Although I did get the feeling that Germaine wanted your information kept brief.<br /><br />We can squeeze this in before the weather?<br /><br />Please keep up the great work!Bottom Feeders Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148643222872976241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-50675669229584609502019-11-19T18:33:55.725-03:302019-11-19T18:33:55.725-03:30Buzz Holling's Resilient Universe;
https://th...Buzz Holling's Resilient Universe;<br /><br />https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/11/19/Buzz-Holling-Resilient-Universe/<br /><br />Basic reading for all of us. Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-62599054186760751452019-11-19T18:16:22.833-03:302019-11-19T18:16:22.833-03:30There may be other agenda, (dare I say fraud and m...There may be other agenda, (dare I say fraud and malfeasance?), involved also.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-6732574958366045012019-11-19T16:44:56.757-03:302019-11-19T16:44:56.757-03:30AJ, you question the role and existence of local e...AJ, you question the role and existence of local elites and their role. This an important issue.<br /> I did a bit of research and reach some conclusions, as to this as the impact of our situation, and leading to the boondoggle etc.<br /><br /> Here's my sources of general understanding as to "elites"<br /><br />1. Google Elite Theory, this gives a history of elite theory from 1848 to present. last item there. I found most relevant > theory of Thomas Ferguson.<br />2. Then Google "Investment Theory of party competition" this is the political theory of Thomas Ferguson(the role of wealthy investors, and the role of ordinary voters, etc).<br /> Maurice Adams has often mentioned that change of PC to Liberal and change of Ed Martin to Stan Marshall is merely a change of horses, and we see the same pattern of Sturge, like Ed Martin, both incompetent but getting the golden handshake, as this present piece on UG shows.<br />3. Google "Thomas Ferguson" : has details of his book the Golden Rule, : The Investment Theory of Party Competition and the Logic of Money -driven political systems.<br />4.Google " Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky, : The political economy of the mass media. .....why the main media here fails the pubic, often commented on UG, and it real.<br /><br /> Seems to explain everything, or most everything, why the public was misled and voted for MFs. <br />I recommend this to PENG2 and others.<br /> MA has studied political science ? Perhaps he could review these sources and write a piece for UG? Why all his letters to the Telegram had little impact.<br /><br />Winston AdamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-72080626564414354432019-11-19T07:32:02.985-03:302019-11-19T07:32:02.985-03:30Listened to Des Sullivan interview on CBC radio th...Listened to Des Sullivan interview on CBC radio this morning. He is absolutely right that stupidity and incompetence should not be rewarded with the golden handshake paid for from the public purse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-20431194509245004392019-11-19T07:26:34.931-03:302019-11-19T07:26:34.931-03:30Great article Des! Time for the Nalcor gang to be ...Great article Des! Time for the Nalcor gang to be ousted...I've seen the nepotistic and patronage attitudes first hand.<br />Dig into Menihek dam.. its Nalcors party spot! They send helicopter loads of bigwigs including engineers,managers etc up there for big parties and double dip on the per diem allotments...small fish in the big sea but it adds up.<br />Keep digging!!Labrador citizennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-88777706165652942792019-11-19T00:19:32.724-03:302019-11-19T00:19:32.724-03:30Joe, I agree that both the Boards of MUN and Board...Joe, I agree that both the Boards of MUN and Board of Trade, and some likely at the 500 a plate Ball dinner, and too at law firms.<br /> I would suggest some names :Ed Roberts, Clyde Wells, Stan Marshall, Danny Williams and brother Tom, many others, yes and Ches and Ball likely. Recall Roberts "I can't comment, I'm acting". So many elites under the cone of silence, they benefit form the public tit, as the province sinks. <br />Winston<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-66212386728684104522019-11-18T20:05:39.263-03:302019-11-18T20:05:39.263-03:30For those interested in Indigenous and Land Protec...For those interested in Indigenous and Land Protectors' activism;<br /><br />https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/rio-tinto-alcan-sued-by-indigenous-1.5363820<br />Keep in mind, Kitimat is the siting for planned huge LNG development. The fish have no chance of serviving the oil and gas juggernaut. Greta correctly stated; "You stole my future".Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-66932959417301686532019-11-18T19:56:28.820-03:302019-11-18T19:56:28.820-03:30Joe, they most likely are represented on the Board...Joe, they most likely are represented on the Boards of the University and Board of Trade. You know, the very people who screen out us "Radicals for Change", and who are left off payrolls, with "No fault" Contract clauses, guaranteeing Bonuses like NALCOR mgmt oversee.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-76360957729658029122019-11-18T17:03:04.620-03:302019-11-18T17:03:04.620-03:30"Local Elites", who are they? Where are ..."Local Elites", who are they? Where are they? Are they in hiding? Do they live next door? Are they conspicuous? Do they have names? Does anyone know their names? Are they few in numbers? Are there hundreds of them? Are they white, black or brown? Can they be identified? The govt was able to publish the sunshine list, over a hundred thousand per year, not really rich if they pay normal taxes. So maybe we need the moonshine list. Or the ELITE LIST. Would Dwight or Ches be among them? Probably not. Are they million ears, billionaires, multi millionaires. Ungovernable 1-2 degrees of separation, uncontrollable political resistance led by local elites. Does Halifax, have any. How about Montreal, Toronto, Calgary or Vancouver, etc. Or are they only local termites ask average Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-30143782386328819212019-11-18T13:01:33.963-03:302019-11-18T13:01:33.963-03:30They "NALCOR" can't come to an agree...They "NALCOR" can't come to an agreement on contract negotiations that's been going on for over 2 years but they can fire this guy for reasons unexplained and give him $900,000 to go away. Someone needs to launch an inquiry I think.dardurfrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04786142726605010062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-29136451466099845752019-11-18T11:00:33.127-03:302019-11-18T11:00:33.127-03:30I was looking through the spending problem outline...I was looking through the spending problem outlined in the presentation linked below and found this unusual slide. Anyone here hear Doug May's talk ? I didn't and I am curious as the the ungovernable part.<br /><br />"In June 2017, Doug May gave a talk at the CEA meetings in NS on Newfoundland’s Economic Future? <br /><br />As the Ungovernable Staples Colony. Ungovernable:1-2 degrees of separation uncontrollable political resistance led by local elites to any reduction in local spending and/or delivery of services.<br /><br />https://www.mun.ca/econ/about/NL_Provincial_Debt.pdf Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-46418334006577192492019-11-18T10:13:06.542-03:302019-11-18T10:13:06.542-03:30https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/politics/riot-...https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/politics/riot-april-05-1932.php<br /><br />Every window of the Colonial Building is glassless: the Prime Minister practically a refugee, the law of enforcement of the city turned over to the authority of ex-service men, as the result of discord which marked the culmination of weeks of protest and dissatisfaction with maladministration of the government. A huge demonstration of citizens in peaceful and law abiding protest yesterday afternoon witnessed a sudden transition, through tactless management by those in authority, to an outbreak of violence that was understandable if it could not be condoned. ...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-66157437594666693432019-11-18T10:07:14.056-03:302019-11-18T10:07:14.056-03:30The only legal option we have here to fight this s...The only legal option we have here to fight this system is to move. Theres nothing else we can do that will send a message.Levy Payerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10196300514529410225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-75551483146771380812019-11-18T09:49:08.769-03:302019-11-18T09:49:08.769-03:30have you ever known a government who were not robb...have you ever known a government who were not robbers of the public purse you will not hear any outcry from the opposing parties in the house of assembly because they are just waiting their turn to get their hands on the purse strings its an old boys group where the rule is you scratch my back and when your turn comes I,ll scratch yourssaltynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-2188317741185561692019-11-18T09:45:20.362-03:302019-11-18T09:45:20.362-03:30A timely and well written fleshing out of my comme...A timely and well written fleshing out of my comment (below) on David Vardy's November 7th article:--<br /><br />Maurice Adams 16 November 2019 at 15:06<br /><br />Letting Sturge go --- now--- supposedly without cause, is a way to preempt what Leblanc's report may say ---, i.e., that Sturge failed miserably in his financial duties/obligations.<br /><br />By acting now, Nalcor can argue that it had no reason (ostensibly) to withold Sturge's $900 K.<br /><br />As I said when Stan was appointed --- Ball merely changed horses.<br /><br />Pile it on boys. Why not keep following the PC government's mantra and keep on screwing rate/taxpayers. UNQUOTE<br /><br />I would also add this excerpt from my even earlier November 7th comment:--<br /><br />Political expediency, loyalty and benefit to the few, not a clear and substantial sense of duty to the people and the province, drove the sanctioning of Muskrat.<br /><br />What evidence is there that the top-down political/power structure that brought us Muskrat Falls has changed?<br /><br />The system has not changed. Unquote.<br /><br />So it is not just (or perhaps even primarily) the Nalcor Board that is at fault --- it is our elected officials and the party hack system that they serve.<br /><br />Maurice Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-42766722943385967772019-11-18T09:02:58.014-03:302019-11-18T09:02:58.014-03:30If they are not spendthrifts and they stay here hi...If they are not spendthrifts and they stay here his successors will be able to pay their light bills. Good financial planning. Tor Fosnaeshttp://mobilewords.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-63909983428633107142019-11-18T09:01:29.302-03:302019-11-18T09:01:29.302-03:30If they are not spendthrifts and they stay here hi...If they are not spendthrifts and they stay here his successors will be able to pay their light bills. Good financial planning. Tor Fosnaeshttp://mobilewords.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-11899457081136598412019-11-18T08:35:12.027-03:302019-11-18T08:35:12.027-03:30The whole issue of large compensation packages for...The whole issue of large compensation packages for public institutions needs an overhaul. Anything over $200,000/yr and any contract with a guaranteed termination bonus exceeding $100,000 should be subject to public debate.<br /><br />What is so special about the CFO of Nalcor that requires such a compensation package? Derrick was either a asleep at the wheel or willfully negligent to allow his cronies to plunder the public purse.<br /><br />What is so special about the Ed Martin other than he was doing Danny's bidding? <br /><br />What is so special about MUN that the president ($469,200) needs to make more than the president of the University of Toronto ($398,737.41)? Does a president really need a car and housing allowance and two years extra pay and benefits worth close to a million when he quits?<br /><br />These salaries are paid for by tax payers. As a tax payer, I feel this is an ongoing robbery with is aided and abetted by a corrupt political system.<br /><br />How many more people in this province have million dollar bonuses waiting for them? Do any of them deserve it? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-91015365754958232552019-11-18T08:16:52.581-03:302019-11-18T08:16:52.581-03:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com