tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post8628103382707576751..comments2023-10-25T07:29:40.789-02:30Comments on UNCLE GNARLEY: ED AND STAN WOULDN’T LIKE GORDDes Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02566013585647491614noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-86715694146031732222018-07-15T11:43:22.945-02:302018-07-15T11:43:22.945-02:30Apres moi, c'est la deluge, that's the dam...Apres moi, c'est la deluge, that's the dam busters raison d'ete, isn't it. Ex mil should know all about that. Let's hope that the North Spur holds, by all accounts it will not need any man-made bombs to fail???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-62538212474922132962018-07-15T10:28:45.895-02:302018-07-15T10:28:45.895-02:30Etienne - yes I was wrong, the quote was from Pogo...Etienne - yes I was wrong, the quote was from Pogo and not L'il Abner (aka Average Joe)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-73005067405207349332018-07-15T10:25:50.773-02:302018-07-15T10:25:50.773-02:30you seem to have slipped to a new low of incoheren...you seem to have slipped to a new low of incoherence.. an amazing melange of mixed, missing and malapropic metaphors .. when you say "get too big for our breaches, and begins to spew garbage from both ends, the hammer comes down" does that mean that when your dog gets sick, you hit him with a hammer? Does that make you both feel better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-6616263544840831602018-07-15T07:45:18.431-02:302018-07-15T07:45:18.431-02:30There could be more than one Brinks or Wells Fargo...There could be more than one Brinks or Wells Fargo armoured car following that funeral procession, eh b'y.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-2463153095314831072018-07-14T22:55:00.894-02:302018-07-14T22:55:00.894-02:30On the other hand, Danny Williams didn`t have a ne...On the other hand, Danny Williams didn`t have a negative self image, being a bit Trumpie like. He became Premier, amassed a lot of land (before and after becoming Premier, some I hear as low as 300 dollars a acre) with Galway in mind. The Nfld economy had been hot, driven by offshore oil and several mega projects. Foolhardy to do do MFs then, or at all, but MF would <br />keep the economy hot, but not long enough for Galway. Two things upset his plans: 1. the shale oil revolution which drove down oil and natural gas prices, and 2. the Saudi response to try and eliminate the USA shale producers, by driving oil lower to 30.00 a barrel. DW saw none of this as a possibility.<br /> Now Galway, with 5000 building lot capacity and a profit of 50,000.00 per building lot, would mean 250 million gain for DW, and double his net worth. Instead he has spent 100 million and almost no housing starts, and the economy in a slide. <br /> Now granted many Nflders bought into Danny`s self promotion, a mini Trump, and fake news of MFs being a great project largely went unquestioned, especially by the media and business elites,eager for the short term benefits.<br />Maybe MF will hurt DW most of all, but the masses are held to ransom on this take or pay. At the very least, DW needs a good shit knockin, hey b`y. <br /> Danny Millions expected to be richer by another 250 million, as I see it. So we`ll see what happens. <br />PFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-65725121941238166392018-07-14T17:32:49.081-02:302018-07-14T17:32:49.081-02:30Winston: Actually, I'll go a step further than...Winston: Actually, I'll go a step further than you: What Brian Peckford and Rex Murphy have in common today is that both repeat right-wing talking points and exhibit no hint of any critical or original thinking of their own. <br /><br />It might seem strange that a former NL premier and a famous Newfoundland journalist should both be so boringly unoriginal...unless, of course, you assume that Newfoundlanders' self-image is so negative that being successful (for a Newfoundland politician or a Newfoundland journalist) requires shedding anything associated with Newfoundland and replacing it with whatever is most fashionable (A set of widely-known right-wing talking points, for instance...).<br /><br />I don't want to brag -well, not too much-but the theory I presented here at Uncle Gnarley's, on Muskrat Falls as a direct consequence of Newfoundlanders' highly negative self-perception, does seem to fit the facts.<br /><br />Anonymous (23:01): "We have met the enemy and he is us" comes from Pogo, not Li'l Abner. Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-45337534728454602092018-07-14T08:36:19.304-02:302018-07-14T08:36:19.304-02:30Omg, what tangled webs we weave, when we weave to ...Omg, what tangled webs we weave, when we weave to deceive. Gord may have been right, there are tools everywhere, and Gord may not have any degrees. But when we get too big for our breaches, and begins to spew garbage from both ends, the hammer comes down...so disappointing...but that's life. Yep, as I have used this saying before, give 'me anough rope and they will hang themselves, and they can hang separately or together, they still hang...but sad. My morning coffee taughts for today. Cheers, Joe blow, average Joe. AJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-9585486372903643092018-07-13T23:01:26.351-02:302018-07-13T23:01:26.351-02:30Anon 19:32
I agree that the narrative is dark and ...Anon 19:32<br />I agree that the narrative is dark and negative and cynical. And I agree that the channel should be changed and thought should be given to a way out of the mess. The problem is that there is no real public discourse. We have a zombie government that looks to next year's election. They don't want to talk about over spending, about how the hell they will mitigate MF rates, about how badly the provincial finances are run. They want to talk about changing the coat-of-arms, about going to the theater in Toronto, about how Uncle Ottawa will step in and save their bacon. On the opposite side, you have UG, and Average Joe Blowhard, and their brethren claiming that it's Ottawa's, or Quebec's, or HydroQuebec, or Nova Scotia's, or Emera's, or maybe aliens from outer space that are responsible for at least part of our woes and therefore they have pay up. Either view, zombie government or nativist, always come round to the fact that we didn't do it, somebody else did (or allowed us to, or didn't use their fiduciary responsible to stop us). Before any meaningful discussion and planning for the future takes place, we need to admit (paraphrasing L'il Abner) that we met the enemy and he/she is us. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-18076260698381245302018-07-13T19:32:37.398-02:302018-07-13T19:32:37.398-02:30The authors' articles have become predictably ...The authors' articles have become predictably cynical and negative. I think we all know by now that we have a big problem. How about we shift focus toward dialogue about how we maneuver our way to improving the situation? I know it's easy to endlessly complain and say we are doomed but nothing ever improves as a result of complaining. Fort Mac can burn down and Japan can have tidal waves but their people demonstrate a resolve about working their way through their problems with dignity and determination. Be nice to see our people in NL demonstrate a similar approach rather than endlessly complaining about the problem. Gord really lacks any creativity or problem solving skills. Wonder where he got his degree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-37939994072291854002018-07-13T17:53:03.259-02:302018-07-13T17:53:03.259-02:30Heracle31, Ex mil, E'tiene, Winstone, LOL. Viv...Heracle31, Ex mil, E'tiene, Winstone, LOL. Vive le Quebec libre. Ha ha. Good article though about Gord and stuff. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-84703578673541467762018-07-13T02:32:47.149-02:302018-07-13T02:32:47.149-02:30Hi Winston,
Despite the 15 days are not over, you...Hi Winston,<br /><br />Despite the 15 days are not over, you already made enough effort to convince me you are interested to have me back in the community. For that, I offer you this post divided in 3 sections:<br /><br />1-My own limitations<br />Let me first quote few of my own comments :<br /><br />21 March 2018 at 23:48<br />If you would rather loose your sovereignty, it may be possible but I am not the right one to talk about this kind of solution.<br /><br />22 March 2018 at 14:28<br />Sorry Maurice; my bad! Indeed, I got confused between the name of your site and the name they gave themselves as a group.<br /><br />23 March 2018 at 16:51<br />Do you think there are facts that I forgot about that would change that ?<br /><br /><br />So 2 days soon after I joined was enough for 3 quotes in which I clearly identified my limitations / errors / questioned the base of facts I was working with.<br /><br />Should you wish to see more without doing the search yourself, just tell me how many more you need to be convinced that I am aware of my limitations.<br /><br />As for my statement that you were selling / installing these pumps, Ex-mil got it right when he replied to you : without a bailout, these pumps (or any efficiency program) are so clearly against Newfoundland's interest that your only motivation must be personal interest. Also, I was not the one recommending you be ban from UG. If that is the point you wish to talk, I suggest we start working on Problem A described below.<br /><br />2-A methodology for us to collaborate on problem solving<br /><br />First step is to list all the important facts about the problem to be solved. The hard thing here is to be sure the list contains only actual facts and not feelings or opinions. It is also important to refrain talking about solutions at this step. There can be no disagreement at this step because it is 100% factual. To fail at this step would prove it is impossible to work together on the case.<br /><br />Second step is to analyse the facts and construct a picture from them. The process can spot details for which facts would be important but were missed in the first step. We just need to fill the gap and keep going. Despite it is 100% based on hard and agreed facts, divergence may happen here but usually, this step should be able to build a solid common ground and only small divergences should occur.<br /><br />Last step is to start reviewing the big picture and think of solutions that would help in this situation. This last step is the one with the highest probability of divergence and actually, it is the very goal to have different ideas and opinions here to help ensure the solution will be optimal. The detailed picture produced at step 2 allows to select or exclude solutions that would not fit it.<br /><br />3-How would you like to start<br /><br />From the activity on this blog, I suggest you two different problems that we can talk about using this methodology. Also, up to you to decide if you would rather be the first to list facts about them or would prefer I start the list.<br /><br />Problem A : Leadership in Newfoundland<br /><br />With its history of decisions that turned against its own interest, many here doubt the Leadership that is ( is not ) present in Newfoundland.<br /><br />Problem B : Dealing with Muskrat Falls<br /><br />MF being the latest and probably biggest of these decisions, it offers a detailed and specific case to review.<br /><br />Should you wish to work on a different problem, by all means propose it.<br /><br />Let see if you we can achieve something...Heracles31https://www.blogger.com/profile/04598467925778515764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-38061289049851936732018-07-13T00:00:18.004-02:302018-07-13T00:00:18.004-02:30Agree with you Etienne, not much impressed with th...Agree with you Etienne, not much impressed with the piece, very shallow, and the comments a boor. <br />Our Rex Murphy, a wizard with words, writes for the National Post, and, while a maybe a Rhodes scholar, he seems not to know the difference between weather and climate, and like Peckford, denies man`s contribution to climate change.<br /> Peckford claims that the Atlantic Accord was a greater benefit to Nfld than confederation with Canada. Peckford, who once had some admirable qualities, seems to suffer from oil on the brain,a Trump fan, and also jealous of Justin Treadeau, in my opinion.<br /> James McLeod, who worked here for the Telegram, left for greener pastures, he said. He did no investigative journalism here as to MFs. <br />WinstonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-52041168908251777322018-07-12T21:25:44.306-02:302018-07-12T21:25:44.306-02:30Sorry Etienne, if I confuse you and Heracles, and ...Sorry Etienne, if I confuse you and Heracles, and perhaps you are the wiser. Now I rate you too as a C, meaning I think you add value, but wait more of your insights as to our cultural script. I have long stated we need a cultural change and you seem to agree. You note the class issue and our long island historical domination by the St John`s merchants. <br /> Now Bruno often used the word technobabble when he got bogged down and lacked understanding on technical issues, and you see my speculation of Heracles as psychobabble. Is Heracles a French name may I ask, or just a handle , as they say. <br /> Perhaps you aspire to be a philosopher and or a deep thinker, and give us more of your insight. You did catch a local journalist here in error, as did I, on his assessment of early late 1600s history here between the English and French. <br /> So I agree with some of your views.<br /> Now I missed commenting about Robert Holmes, who views I much value. He too is much into being Green, but like Kermit the Frog, it is hard being green. For being Green, the planet needs more frogs and fewer ox and cattle we are told. So frogs are not so bad.<br /> Etienne, did you not predict that Nfld will be totally depopulated, or maybe someone else said that......<br />And Heracles suggested we swap CF for MFs debt. <br /> Lucky I rate you both a C, with those statements, but if we hear more from you, your grade might improve. Just my opinion. <br /> Now I suggest I am the best advocate here for Quebec, as Eric knows, I even buy into Quebec companies. Does this not suggest I know at least a little about French culture......<br /> Should you write a piece for UG, I wonder......<br /> But will you admonish Heracles for his false allegation made against me..... <br />Winston Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-2427085420010528082018-07-12T21:07:32.183-02:302018-07-12T21:07:32.183-02:30Robert G. Holmes: If there is a point to the above...Robert G. Holmes: If there is a point to the above comment by all means feel free to get to it, if it means something by all means feel free to clarify it.Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-37326914088053487342018-07-12T21:03:34.198-02:302018-07-12T21:03:34.198-02:30Levy Payer: James McLeod's piece was interesti...Levy Payer: James McLeod's piece was interesting but frustrating at the same time. It highlights the lack of any kind of balance in journalism today.<br /><br />Thus, did you notice that in the article reference is made to "the current liberal government", which could not cut spending, but when he blamed Dan*COUGH*iams for the initial explosion in spending, he avoided naming his political party (Progressive-conservative)? And sure enough, in the Comments Section you have (along with the usual anti-Quebec garbage) various people practically screaming in print that it's all so inevitable, Newfoundland's economic woes are all the fault of the evil liberals/socialists (who, indeed, are the cause of all that is wrong on Planet Earth...).<br /><br />Perhaps I am unusually cynical, but I get the impression that the goal of the article was not to explain Newfoundland and its fiscal problems to National Post readers, but rather to give National Post readers yet another simplistic and Manichean fairy tale wherein Bad Leftists (an oxymoron to their mind, I know) yet again are the root cause of Bad Things Happening...somewhere. <br /><br />Indeed in a sense ALL National Post stories are the same: Religious-like stories involving Good right-wingers and Evil left-wingers, all as predictable as a Medieval Morality play. <br /><br />And if some inconvenient fact (for instance, that it was a Progressive Conservative government which started to spend money like a drunken sailor) does not fit the narrative of the morality play/"news story", well, what readers do not know can't hurt them, right? Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-22870798599580147162018-07-12T20:28:28.302-02:302018-07-12T20:28:28.302-02:30Oui, apres moi, c'est la deluge--- Louis 1V?? ...Oui, apres moi, c'est la deluge--- Louis 1V?? Let er rip. No quiet revolution needed.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-26452841241951806742018-07-12T20:24:02.827-02:302018-07-12T20:24:02.827-02:30Even a little Trump/Ford type shakeup might help r...Even a little Trump/Ford type shakeup might help right now. Things have to change, and see how easy it was for the complete Board and CEO of Hydro were shown the door.Robert G Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356463540446993862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-2644260678921322112018-07-12T20:10:22.023-02:302018-07-12T20:10:22.023-02:30Winston: Err, The story of THE OX AND THE FROG is ...Winston: Err, The story of THE OX AND THE FROG is almost certainly known to Heracles as a poem of the seventeenth century French writer Jean de La Fontaine (La Grenouille qui se veut faire aussi grosse que le boeuf).<br /><br />Now, many of these poems are regularly taught to high schoolers (I can still recite "Le corbeau et le renard"), so that Heracles (or indeed any educated francophone) quoting such a poem is most definitely NOT indicative of being an aspiring philosopher and/or deep thinker. <br /><br />Thus, may I gently suggest you save the amateurish psychobabble for commentators whose basic cultural background + script you actually know something about? Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-54665775249408787602018-07-12T19:55:08.548-02:302018-07-12T19:55:08.548-02:30Lol, history repeating itself! So true, but depres...Lol, history repeating itself! So true, but depressing at the same time.<br /><br />I'll keep an eye on those two sites from now on :-)Ex-Military Engrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209511368820589727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-35891253273120864422018-07-12T19:17:02.252-02:302018-07-12T19:17:02.252-02:30Ex-Military Engr, and others here for whom laughte...Ex-Military Engr, and others here for whom laughter is a good coping mechanism in the wake of disastrous political blunders -<br /><br />Glad you liked it (and yes, the article you linked to was also pretty funny). You will notice that they wrote that Brad Wall delivered the eulogy at a "Calgary Church". Now, this article dates back to late 2017, and it was in May of this year that the public learned that Brad Wall would be working as a consultant for a law firm located in...Calgary! The writing staff at The Beaverton obviously had a rather accurate crystal ball in their possession...possibly borrowed from their American colleagues at THE ONION: Articles such as this one (note the date!)-<br /><br />https://politics.theonion.com/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-prosperi-1819565882<br /><br />-are rather hard to make sense of unless we assume the existence of such a crystal ball, as I'm sure you'll all agree.Etiennenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-60637303235452590912018-07-12T17:15:41.013-02:302018-07-12T17:15:41.013-02:30Joe, while you sort out who is the real Eric, what...Joe, while you sort out who is the real Eric, what about Heracles, He or his anom supporter says :No one is so deaf who refuses to hear the wisdom of others,( which comment was aimed at me).<br /> Now I recall saying, I think, I am in agreement with at least 90 percent of Dave Vardy, Des Sullivan,and also similar with Jim Gordon and M Adams and Cabot Martin on the North Spur risk, and 60 percent with Bruno and Heracles and about 75 percent generally with PENG2,(and 90 percent or more on his technical opinions), and I agree more than 75 percent with Bernard, and Eric. So if these have words of wisdom,I hear it. <br /> Heracles at 60 percent is on the low side.<br /> Now Heracles tells fables which is fake news by definition, but with a moral intended, so ok. Such fables like the Ox and the Frog goes back to 600 BC. Heracles, likely a fable also, as to heroics, going back to 1300 BC, so maybe our Quebec Heracles thinks himself a philosopher, one of great wisdom, that others on this blog fail to understand. <br /> Now Socrates said that a wise person must first admit his own ignorance, before he acquires knowledge. Heracles makes no such admission. So what great wisdom has Heracles sent our way that I and others fail to understand, I ask you Joe. I do not see much, and nothing to improve my 60 percent rating , which is, I guess,just a C rating.<br /> Maybe Heracles, (if he comes, or is allowed back), or someone on this blog could itemise his teachings, like the sayings of Mao. Now Heracles even distorts my arguments,and make false statements to try to discredit others and prop up his own version of what is logic.<br />Perhaps Heracles could write a piece for UG, with all his wisdom in one piece. If so the title would likely be THE OX AND THE FROG (HQ and NALCOR), but nothing new there.<br /> Winston Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-59030375926668492602018-07-12T16:47:41.380-02:302018-07-12T16:47:41.380-02:30It was great to read the James McLeod piece in the...It was great to read the James McLeod piece in the National Post about the dire future of this province thanks to past governments and the current Apple Dumpling Government we now have to deal with. James, being embedded here for a few years can expose to the rest of the country how things work down here (or don't work). Paddy of VOCM said the piece irked him. Well, i tell you what irks me is having to dish out portions of hard earned wages to this pathetic govNL to keep its one nostril above water. I'm of the opinion, the sooner she goes bankrupt the better- Get it over with already.Levy Payerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10196300514529410225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-71131691966303144092018-07-12T16:08:43.116-02:302018-07-12T16:08:43.116-02:30Waldo
you truly are a fool, my IP address is in St...Waldo<br />you truly are a fool, my IP address is in St. John's and I can't fake it, change it's spots (as you would say), to make it look like it's in Ottawa.. BTW caplin's in Middle Cove<br />as to what I am willing to give up is a moot point (that's Harvey Road lawyer talk for ya), I just know that we will be in the poor house for a long long time because of that little Quebec pawn, Danial.. unlike you though, I don't expect a free ride and I accept that it is all our own stupid fault.. time to stop blaming others for your screw-ups, look in the freaking mirrorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-29425103672158490212018-07-12T15:21:27.937-02:302018-07-12T15:21:27.937-02:30Lol, you blew your cover about living in St. John&...Lol, you blew your cover about living in St. John's months ago, by telling us, all the lawyers hung out on Harvey road. I'll let you in on another tide bit about St. John's , all the bars are on Harvey road too, and not George street, so you won't get it wrong when you look that up online. What a great nl patriot you are, so as a patriot, what are you willing to give up for a FG bailout. You must have the answer, since you asked the question. As for IP addresses, living in your Ottawa stow-away, you have more ip addresses than one could count, as you say, i am now using this computer, and now using another, and then another one as I race from here to there and somewhere else. But for now I have made my case, and will let others on the blog judge who you are, including UG. Thanks, average Joe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235138415013046381.post-60033488146661284632018-07-12T14:44:57.273-02:302018-07-12T14:44:57.273-02:30AJ, I wish I had above anon English writing skills...AJ, I wish I had above anon English writing skills, speed and (apparent) wide & in debt NL knowledge, but I don't.<br /><br />As I mentioned you earlier, you could ask Des Sullivan for more relevant information so you feel more secure - via this anon IP geographic location by example.<br /><br />Until that time, I would ask you refrain from associating me to posts that I DID NOT WRITE.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------<br /><br />As you brought me into this discussion AJ, I’ll then provide you my take on it.<br /><br />I must admit above anon comments are way more entertaining than yours (and mine too I must admit). And by judging your (apparent) poor answers, this anon shots “seem” to be pretty accurate. I say “seem” and “apparent” because I don’t have sufficient knowledge on fisheries and some other points to properly assess.<br /><br />As you don’t seem to like the message, then like usual, you somewhat shift your focus on the messenger, and on by-standers like me. Oh well. (He also seems to have adopted your writing style - which often borders disrespect. So I guess you should be pretty comfortable dealing with this anon).<br /><br />Sans rancune j’espère,<br /><br />Ex-Military Engr<br />Ex-Military Engrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209511368820589727noreply@blogger.com